Comparing A Pair Of Super 8s
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study was prompted after accessing a Super 8 to get physical
measurements for a fella in Australia. It was noticed that the
foam on one had finally given up its ghost, so repair was
performed. This now provided two identical Super 8 units for
comparison, one with the original foam annulus which was still OK and
the other with new foam. BY OK it is meant that the foam didn't
tear and would spring back to shape after compressed.
Both units have phenolic spiders but one is marked as 10W and the other as 15W. One shows no evidence of having been used as was claimed by the seller. |
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The Super 8 FS/AL purchased in 2015. This one is all original, including the foam annulus. It's remarkable that the foam lasted all these years. It still springs back after being squeezed. This unit is dated 3/58 on the back side of the cone and it still works after 63 years. It has the older phenolic spider. The sheet under the speaker is a two sided template for all the then current models of Wharfedale speakers. The black bag is a dust cover to protect the open voice coil from foreign debris. The wires on the bag are the original solid wires that were factory soldered to the speaker to protect it from inexperienced hands holding a soldering iron. The cardboard box is the original shipping carton. A pair of ALTEC 415C BiFlex units can be seen on the chair. One of a pair of Jensen F12N units is on the floor. |
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Both units were all original but the one on the right, purchased in May 2020 has a new foam annulus. It was purchased simply because I couldn't pass up the opportunity. This one is dated 5/57. |
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A better view of the difference in the foam annuli. The new annulus on the right raised Fs to about 76hz whereas the one on the left has an Fs of 59hz. This says little as the foam annulus of the original on the left is softer due to age. These fellas aren't woofers and even if used as such or in a full range single speaker system, that difference wouldn't matter much. The unit on the left will eventually need a new annulus. I left it alone simply because it worked and that was a good thing for had that annulus been replaced, this comparison couldn't have been done. The right speaker annulus was OK when purchased but failure was inevitable as it was very slow to recover from compression. When looked at recently to get a top plate thickness for a fella in Australia, the annulus was noticed to have deteriorated further when the speaker was jerked by removing it from the carton after which its twin was checked and this page is the result as another opportunity may not have presented itself. |
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The test setup. The device being used is the Pocket CLIO, seen at the front edge of the table. |
By clicking on figures 1 thru 6 and photo 7, a larger view can be obtained.
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THD EB3 1w1m Remarkable for such an old paper cone speaker. The -30dB in THD at 800hz amounts to 3.5% THD and the -40dB between 2khz and 5khz is 1%. Check this link. dB to %
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The Conflict
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it should have been removed. These traces were run after those
shown in figure 1. The vertical scales are different.
The vertical scale in fig.5 is 10W per major division and 2W per minor division. CLIO doesn't allow manual scaling whereas LMS does.
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